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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #225 on: June 21, 2022, 08:47:44 pm »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/putin-dreaming-nightmare-end-war-072616377.html

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Early on in the war, many were concerned that China would supply Russia’s war machine. That possibility would be detrimental to Ukraine’s long-term ability to win this war. Thankfully, China has not appeared to do so—at least not at a scale to cause much public discussion. But in light of President Biden’s recent Taiwan statements, there is a chance that this may change. If China comes to believe that the U.S. has abandoned its long-term Taiwan policy, or that it considers Taiwan’s fate linked to Ukraine’s, then it may more decisively side with Russia. This would be one of the easier ways to “kill with a borrowed knife.” After all, the more time and effort NATO must spend to support Ukraine, the less freedom of action the U.S. will have in the Indo-Pacific.

What I have been saying since the Ukraine war started:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/msg10059/?topicseen#msg10059

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it is beyond idiotic for the US to rhetorically connect Ukraine with Taiwan. Instead, the US should assure China that it does not care about Taiwan, but instead positively hopes China can recapture Outer Manchuria from Russia also.

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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #226 on: July 04, 2022, 08:10:59 pm »
For reference:

https://www.cfr.org/timeline/us-relations-china

My favourite part by far:

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1969. Moscow replaces Washington as China’s biggest threat, and the Sino-Soviet split contributes to Beijing’s eventual rapprochement with the United States.

This is what we need to get back to.


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« Reply #227 on: July 19, 2022, 12:37:15 am »
All attempts at improving relations deserve gratitude:

https://us.yahoo.com/finance/news/chinese-ministers-trip-us-sign-093000446.html

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Chinese minister's trip to US a sign of collaboration on climate and a hint of hope for ties

China's environment minister, Huang Runqiu, made a rare visit to the United States last week, as Beijing pushes green cooperation to mend ties with Washington.

Huang is the first Chinese official at ministerial level or above who has made a public visit to Washington during the presidency of Joe Biden, after face-to-face gatherings between officials of the two countries were affected by their worsening relationship and the pandemic.
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China-US collaboration on the environment and climate was a model for all-round multilevel and multi-field cooperation, Huang said.

He praised the US side for its experience, providing "a useful reference for China to improve the laws, regulations and policies related to climate change and ecological environment protection".

Long-term cooperation between China and the US in the environmental protection industry had achieved good results, the minister said.

"The two countries have opened up their markets for technical services and products related to addressing climate change and ecological and environmental protection," Huang said, adding it strongly supported low-carbon energy transition and improving the quality of the environment and ecology for a "win-win".

China was willing to work with the US to strengthen cooperation to manage plastic waste in the oceans and looked forward to seeing more practical results, he said.

According to the EPA's Twitter account, the agency welcomed Huang and his delegation to the US "to highlight the long-standing relationship on environmental protection" between the two countries. It described Huang's meeting with McCabe in Washington as "productive".
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Lu Xiang, a US-China expert and senior fellow with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said the minister's trip to the US, and particularly his talks in Washington with counterparts, carried significant meaning after such exchanges had almost disappeared since the Covid-19 pandemic started.

Now imagine if a similar meeting occurred but the topic of discussion was how to conduct a joint military invasion of Russia.

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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #228 on: July 28, 2022, 07:59:34 pm »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-china-relations-cooperation-is-over-not-coming-back-soon-analysts-says-123726601.html

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"That more or less cooperative relationship between the United States and China that had been there for a good 30-plus years is over and not coming back anytime soon. I would say it is a generational shift, actually," Dane Chamorro, head of Global Risk Analysis at Control Risks, told Yahoo Finance Live (video above.)

In fact, if we start calculating from when relations began improving, it would be 50+ years. In review:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Rapprochement

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For China, when American president Johnson decided to wind down the Vietnam War in 1968, it gave China an impression that the US had no interest of expanding in Asia anymore. Meanwhile relations with the USSR rapidly worsened.
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This became an especially important concern for the People's Republic of China after the Sino-Soviet border conflict of 1969. The PRC was diplomatically isolated and the leadership came to believe that improved relations with the United States would be a useful counterbalance to the Soviet threat.

The parts in bold is what we need a repeat of today.

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In 1971, an unexpectedly friendly encounter between the American and Chinese ping-pong athletes called Glenn Cowan and Zhuang Zedong in Japan opened the way for a visit to China

Let us revisit the details:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping-pong_diplomacy

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The events leading up to the encounter began when Glenn Cowan missed his team bus one afternoon after his practice in Nagoya during the 31st World Table Tennis Championship. Cowan had been practicing for 15 minutes with the Chinese player, Liang Geliang, when a Japanese official came and wanted to close the training area. Cowan boarded a shuttle bus carrying the Chinese team, most of whom treated him with suspicion. Chinese player Zhuang Zedong, however, shook Cowan's hand, spoke to him through an interpreter and presented him with a silk-screen portrait of Huangshan Mountains, a famous product from Hangzhou. Cowan wanted to give something back, but all he could find from his bag was a comb. The American hesitantly replied, "I can't give you a comb. I wish I could give you something, but I can't." This World Table Tennis Championships marked the return of China's participation after a six-year absence. When the Chinese team and Cowan walked off the bus, journalists who were following the Chinese team took photographs.[6] In the political climate of the 1960s, the sight of an athlete of Communist China with an athlete of the United States was sure to garner attention. As a self-described hippie, Cowan presented Zhuang with a T-shirt with a red, white and blue peace emblem flag and the words "Let It Be," lyrics from a song by The Beatles, on the following day.
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On the following day, many Japanese newspapers carried photographs of Zhuang Zedong and Glenn Cowan.
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Upon his return to the United States, one of the American players told reporters that the Chinese were very similar to people in the U.S.

The people are just like us. They are real, they're genuine, they got feeling. I made friends, I made genuine friends, you see. The country is similar to America, but still very different. It's beautiful.
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Because neither Soviet athletes nor journalists appeared in China following the appearance of the American players and journalists, one speculation is that the act showed the equal scorn of both countries towards the USSR.

All the elements that I regularly promote are included here: the use of sport in building bridges, the impact of Counterculture pop music on attitudes, the role that Japan can play in improving relations between China and the US if only it wanted to, the emphasis on cultural similarities between America and China, and above all how everything must be underpinned by shared hostility towards Russia.

Back to previous link:

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A short time later, Japan also recognized the PRC and committed to substantial trade with the continental power.
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Most major anti-US propaganda disappeared in China after the Nixon visit; although there was still occasional criticism of US imperialism, the Soviet Union had definitively become China's arch-foe in the 1970s.
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Both China and the United States backed combatants in Africa against Soviet and Cuban-supported movements.
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In May 1973, in an effort to build toward formal diplomatic relations, the US and the PRC established the United States Liaison Office (USLO) in Beijing and a counterpart PRC office in Washington. In 1973 to 1978, such distinguished Americans as David K. E. Bruce, George H. W. Bush, Thomas S. Gates, Jr., and Leonard Woodcock served as chiefs of the USLO with the personal rank of ambassador. China made clear that it considered the Soviet Union its chief adversary, and urged the United States to be powerful
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In the Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations, dated 1 January 1979, the United States transferred diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing. The US reiterated the Shanghai Communiqué's acknowledgment of the Chinese position that there is only one China and that Taiwan is a part of China; Beijing acknowledged that the American people would continue to carry on commercial, cultural, and other unofficial contacts with the people of Taiwan.[89]
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North Korea issued a statement congratulating "our brotherly neighbors for ending long-hostile relations with the US".
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The threats of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia were major factors that brought Washington and Beijing closer than ever before.[91] US-China military cooperation began in 1979; American arms sales to China were initiated, and in 1981 it was revealed that a joint US-China listening post had been operated in Xinjiang, near the Soviet border.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/military-decolonization/msg6761/#msg6761

Many people these days (including Biden?!) erroneously presume that the US had maintained diplomatic relations with Taiwan throughout the decades since establishing diplomatic relations with China. This is not true; it was Trump who dug this back up out of nowhere:

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When Donald Trump won the 2016 presidential election, contention over the Taiwan issue intensified; President Trump became the first sitting US president since Jimmy Carter in 1979 to have any formal political or diplomatic contacts with Taiwan when he decided to receive a phone call from president Tsai Ing-Wen. Trump has expanded the duties of the US' de facto embassy in Taipei-American Institute in Taiwan - by adding more security personnel, and has overseen increasing non-diplomatic visits of Tsai Ing-Wen and Congressmen to each other's countries/regions. In addition, American warships have reportedly crossed the Taiwan strait and increased military drills with Taiwan, which mainland China views as a direct threat to its sovereignty.[96][97]

Similarly, it was Trump who started the hysteria over Xinjiang:

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On 17 June 2020, President Trump signed the Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act,[198]

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In July 2020, the Trump administration ordered the closure of the Chinese consulate in Houston.

To say nothing of:



And of course what our enemies are recommending:

https://vdare.com/posts/it-s-time-to-ban-chinese-students-and-academics-from-universities-they-are-spies-and-possibly-sleeper-saboteurs-for-the-red-regime

Having poor US-China relations is part of Trumpism. To the extent that we must prevent Trumpism in general from becoming normalized, we must also prevent poor US-China relations from becoming normalized.

By the way, who is the true power behind Trump?

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-getting-reelected-2024-would-fix-all-of-russia-problems-2022-7

How can China fail to see what is really going on?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/
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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #229 on: August 02, 2022, 02:16:51 pm »

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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #230 on: August 08, 2022, 02:12:38 am »
Our enemies explain in their own words why they want poor US-China relations:

https://counter-currents.com/2022/08/the-china-question/

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some reasons why conflict with China is not only inevitable, but could also improve the situation of white people in the world.

This alone is why we must avoid US-China conflict at any cost!

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Russia, China’s ostensible friend, doesn’t feel comfortable with their new senior partners. With the loss of the European energy markets due to sanctions in the wake of the Russo-Ukrainian War, the Russians can either sell their crude and gas to China at discount prices or pound sand, as it is popularly described by people on the Internet, all while ethnic Russians are being demographically displaced by Chinese in the Russian Far East.
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The Russian expansion into Siberia and the steppe, as well as its subjugation of northern China during the Century of Humiliation, can be understood as a Western subjugation of non-whites, but for us to accept that, we need to understand that Russians are white.
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the Japanese view Americans and white people in general as blonde six-footers covered in muscle and driven by an unstoppable will. For all the bluster leading up to 1945, and for all their valor, actual and imagined, they are now completely cowed and docile. And that is what China ought to become.
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China must not be allowed to break the fences that have cut it off from the Pacific Ocean, and under no circumstance must it be allowed to encroach anywhere near white homelands. Chinese immigration into and infiltration of Australia, New Zealand, and Canada in particular is dangerous and must be stopped.
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The ZOG regime will try inasmuch as possible to depict this conflict as being one of democracy versus authoritarianism, and liberty versus despotism. We must, however, deconstruct that narrative and impose our own. White vs. Yellow.
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Ideally, the Washington regime breaks China’s back, but is so weakened that we can simply sweep it aside and take our rightful position as leaders of our respective countries in the West. The real world is rarely ideal, so we’ll probably have to do some vigorous fighting back home first before the West rides out in force once again — this time to inflict ten thousand years of humiliation on the Pompously Prideful Han.

In other words, a US-China conflict is bound to weaken the US. Our enemies want to use this as an opportunity to take power in the US (following which they will join Russia). Therefore, from our perspective, the best way to keep our enemies out of power is to prevent conflict between the US and China from breaking out in the first place. Good US-China relations mean economic ease in the US, and economic ease in the US for the next several generations means a smooth, steady completion of the Great Replacement in the US. That is what our enemies are frightened of. That is therefore what we should be focused on making happen.
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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #231 on: September 18, 2022, 03:45:47 am »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/isolated-putin-left-beijings-mercy-050000702.html

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Gabuev says the relationship between China, Russia and the US is more nuanced.

"China understands that it mustn't cross American red lines," he says.

"But the real question for them is: if we throw Vladimir Putin under a bus, does it fundamentally change our relationship with the US? Or will Washington just pocket that win and keep up its pressure on Taiwan, Xinjiang, and intellectual property theft?

"In short, dumping Russia will not result in any real improvement in relations with the US, so why would they do it? I think Beijing will be careful not to cross any red lines, but otherwise it is going to be happy exploring opportunities."

This is what we need to work on. US leftists must convince China that in exchange for turning against Russia the US under Blue control will become a sincere ally of China. This will motivate China not just to turn against Russia, but also to support Blue victory over Red in the US henceforth. China must stop perceiving the US as monolithically Sinophobic, but must be made to see two oppositional sides to the US: the racist Red Western occupation which will never view China as anything other than the latest iteration of Yellow Peril, and the anti-racist Blue America which views China as a fellow victim of Western colonialism.

But in order to get US leftists to do what I just suggested, they must first abandon the "democracy good, autocracy bad" mindset that currently animates US rhetoric about Taiwan. Being American has nothing to do with supporting foreign democracies against autocracies. Being American is about supporting fellow victims of Western colonialism (irrespective of their form of government) against the Western colonial powers.

China is more than ready for friendship with America:

https://boingboing.net/2022/09/16/chinese-kids-posing-as-american-teens-in-front-of-blue-lockers-at-ikea.html

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    IKEA's blue locker rooms are being used not to store bags, but to pose in front of as a pseudo-American high school. One of the biggest trends right now on the Chinese version of Instagram, Little Red Book (Xiaohongshu), is America core. The trend is called "Meigaofeng," which means "American high school fashion," more or less. The trend romanticizes a stereotypical American private school uniform, with influencers wearing pleated skirts, ties over white collared shirts, loafers, blazers, and looking straight out of something like Gossip Girl or Clueless.

    The influencers have chosen IKEA's locker rooms because they mimic what an American high school would look like and famous scenes from any number of movies and TV shows, including Clueless, Mean Girls, and The Breakfast Club.
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Young Chinese citizens' interest in American culture — especially trying to emulate it — isn't anything new. Apparently, the trend was already popular in China when Gossip Girl first debuted.

In late 2021, as pandemic lockdowns in China started to lift, a trend exploded on social media where influencers would pose and pretend to be in the U.S. The trend inexplicably had people posing in front of the Shanghai Costco, with captions that said they were "pretending to be in Los Angeles." Similar to Meigaofeng, influencers posed with items that seemed to try to reflect America: shopping carts, pizza boxes and cans of Coke.

Is the feeling mutual? If not, can we make it mutual?

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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #232 on: September 22, 2022, 10:05:12 pm »

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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #233 on: September 23, 2022, 11:42:32 pm »
Our way of thinking is spreading in comments:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-warns-china-against-aiding-182749193.html

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USA needs to convince China to attack Russia. China has territorial claims. Russians grabbed a huge amount of Chinese land in the past. Besides, now is a good time, Russian army is exhausted. USA should support China in this noble deed

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg15414/#msg15414
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« Reply #234 on: October 01, 2022, 08:55:25 pm »
Mainstream journalists are still stuck in outmoded thinking:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/u-chinese-cooperation-essential-solving-120003571.html

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Beijing never officially supported Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. However, the Chinese government was also reluctant to work with the United States to sanction Russia, mostly due to worsening U.S.-China relations over the past five years.

Cooperation between the United States and China is a necessary first step in solving some of the overwhelming problems facing both countries. For instance, it is unlikely that we can make any meaningful progress on addressing climate change or the trade imbalances between the United States and China without the two countries working together. The challenge is figuring out how the United States and China can strengthen their policy cooperation while heatedly criticizing each other.

But more and more commenters are adopting our way of thinking, namely that US-China friendship cannot be founded on cooperating while criticizing each other, but only on openly identifying a common enemy:

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The biggest issue in the word is that we don't have real leaders. We are a step away to direct confrontation with Russia and we go to visit Taiwan? Is US willing to see Russia joining forces with China to fight against US? We should try to reach new agreements with China  ,mew cooperations until we solve the issues with Russia. Our leaders are really dumb.

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China just needs to turn their heads and view all the natural resources Russia has.  Much better pickings than Taiwan, since China already has all the educated people they need in an overpopulated, polluted land; and the west will look the other way as China helps themselves to a nice, fat bite of Russia.

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China is waiting for Russia to lose another 300,000 troops, and most of its planes/helicopters/tanks --- then send the PLA to take back Siberia

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« Reply #235 on: October 24, 2022, 12:11:24 am »
The root of the rot has been identified (and also looks like what we would expect):

https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/secret-chinese-philosopher-lessons-for-america/



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Wang Huning is arguably the single most influential “public intellectual” alive today.

A member of the CCP’s seven-man Politburo Standing Committee, he is China’s top ideological theorist, quietly credited as being the “ideas man” behind each of Xi’s signature political concepts
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Wang speaks positively and at length about Allen Bloom’s book The Closing of the American Mind

Of course:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Bloom

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Categories:
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Jewish American academics

So what is it that Bloom and Wang both like?

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Bloom’s main idea is that today’s university education no longer enables its subjects to grasp the traditional values that founded Western society.
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cultural relativism succeeded in destroying the idea of Western centrism
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The universities responsible for conducting higher education do not provide knowledge of the glorious history of Western philosophy and literature.
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Students watch “Kramer vs. Kramer” to learn about divorce and sexuality, but few saw “Anna Karenina” or “The Red and the Black” as indispensable in their own lives.

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Wang echoes Bloom’s description of a vast “nihilism” gripping America’s college-educated young adults, a worldview that could conceive of no unifying, bedrock truths and consequently has nothing to build society on top of.

Of course the last paragraph is untrue. The only unifying bedrock truths we need to build America are that oppressors are evil and that it is our duty to destroy evil.

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Wang finds many praiseworthy things about America. He admires how energetic and visionary its people can be, he admires the speed and innovation of its companies (Wang spends several pages marveling at the wonders of travel agencies)

It would be more accurate to say that Wang admires:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/

Continuing:

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Wang raves about the productivity of an American farm: A single farmer can raise thousands of pigs

Firstly:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/farming-vs-ranching/

Secondly:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/msg14018/?topicseen#msg14018

Continuing:

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Pig farming can be described as dirty and smelly. This farm is highly automated, but dirt and odors cannot be excluded. Pigs do not know about cleanliness, there is no way out. When we visited the pig shed, the stench was so bad that it was discouraging. But the farm owner had to do it. He said that after work every day, it takes several showers to wash the smell away. This is something that I’m afraid not many people can accept in the United States.

The fewer can accept it, the better!

And no, pigs actually know a lot about cleanliness:

https://animaldome.com/why-are-pigs-clean-animals/

In failing to realize that it is the very Western institution he is praising which makes the imprisoned pigs dirty, Wang reveals only his own utter lack of empathic sensitivity.

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This farm owner told me that he was devastated when his son graduated from college and told him he didn’t want to come back for a while. But he believed he would come back eventually. If he doesn’t come back, the farm will be a problem because he has only one son and there is no one to succeed him.

The high output of agricultural production ensures the stability of political and social life. Imagine what will happen one day when Americans do not have enough food.

If Americans switched to eating the pig feed instead of the pigs (and similarly for other ranch animals), America could feed a human population of billions with ease!



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Wang’s observations add new context to China’s recent crackdown on powerful tech companies like Tencent and Alibaba. While foreigners often frame this crackdown as a general attack on monopolies or rival power structures, it’s not that simple. China is attacking companies that dominate the “soft” side of tech—video games, social media, and online shopping—while leaving the “hard” side largely untouched.

It is the hard side which should be attacked:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/

and the soft side which should be celebrated:



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Aristotle said more than 2,000 years ago that the family is the cell of society. In the years since the war, the cell, the family, has disintegrated in the United States.

Even before reaching this part, I had already guessed that Wang is an Aristotle-worshipper.

And given that Wang is an Aristotle-worshipper, can you guess the next part? I did:

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While the subtext of America’s racial divide permeates much of America Against America, Wang only explicitly addresses it very late in the book, when he turns to what he calls the “black challenge” or, more frightfully, the “black storm.”

“Some people have compared the black issue to the biggest social problem, saying that it will eventually become a fatal problem,” writes Wang. “In the United States, it can be deeply felt that there is some truth in this statement.”

No, it is the beginning of the solution:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/allies/blm/

Of course Wang does not understand this:

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I have been to black neighborhoods in San Francisco, New York, New Haven, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., and Atlanta, and the impression is extremely bad. Generally speaking, they are more dirty and poor than the areas where white people live, and it is obvious that they are poor areas. In front of many houses, there are some lazy black people sitting. [When] young people stand in groups on the street, people’s hearts beat [faster].

Wang Huning a.k.a. Karen Wang.

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Black criminals specialize in robbing Chinese people of their money.

"Blacks" were behind literally 0% of the following (not a complete list):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_International_Settlement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulangsu_International_Settlement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Hungarian_concession_of_Tianjin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_concession_of_Tianjin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhouwan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_French_Concession

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_concession_of_Hankou

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concessions_in_Tianjin#French_concession

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiautschou_Bay_concession

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Concession_of_Tientsin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Macau

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Dalian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_concession_of_Tianjin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_for_the_Lease_of_the_Liaotung_Peninsula

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Hong_Kong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihaiwei_under_British_rule

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_concession_of_Tianjin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Concession_of_Jiujiang

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Concession_(Shanghai)

If anyone deserves to be described as specializing in robbing Chinese people, it should be "whites" (including Jews). But Wang is an Aristotle-worshipping Karen, so what can we expect from him?

What do our enemies think of Wang?

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The rise of Wang Huning’s China, then, is not a calamity for the United States. It is an opportunity for a deep, harsh, even brutal self-reflection.

No. Wang does not want friendship between China and America. He wants friendship between Aristotelian "New China" and the Manifest Destiny occupation in the US. If we want friendship between China and America as fellow former victims of Western colonialism, China must get rid of Wang and America must get rid of Bloom.
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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #236 on: October 24, 2022, 12:19:34 pm »
Why is Aristotle bad?



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Re: China and United States Relations
« Reply #239 on: November 14, 2022, 12:50:51 pm »
Sounded fairly positive:

Hear what Biden and Xi said to each other in first meeting as heads of state
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President Joe Biden and Chinese leader Xi Jinping sat down face-to-face for the first time since Biden took office in a meeting that could have long-lasting consequences for the world's most important bilateral relationship.


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Great for the US and Chinese Presidents to be meeting to reduce tensions and build bridges for greater cooperation and good relations and better understanding.
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Whoa! This really is another east meets west moment.🦅🐉🇺🇸🇨🇳 I hope things get better for everone and the worlds sake🌏🗺🙏.
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Even China said as leaders of the 2 major countries (basically not even considering russia as one of the majour contries) XD
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I'm impressed with both leaders positive attitudes! cooperation....not War
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I would love to embrace our Chinese brothers and sisters. Let us be great fun for Biden's diplomatic leadership and the Chinese Administration opening up with peaceful conversation. 💙🇺🇸🇨🇳
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US and China should work together not fight each other.
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Good honest start, I hope the relation ship proceeds on this path.